TJ AWD vs AWD Sport Differences

[spud100]

NO,
Sports definitley are significantly lower then the Base and Verada AWD models.

Rest of suspension on the TJ series appears to be the same. i.e the same small Sway bar diameter at the rear.

Only real way to tell if the shocks are different is to look at the paint codes and the part numbers on the OEM shocks.

What Monroe put in their aftermarket list can easily not be the same as the multiplicity of varaints that were originally fitted in the factory.

Gerry

[DSMAZDAGTR]

I'm sorry, but someone saying "mine is lower" is just heresay (not to mention I'm sure the sports drivers just want to believe theirs is better).
There are so many variables as to why two cars have different ride hights when sat next to each other.

Any extra weight in your car, extra features (more weight which is clearly listed as more in a sports that the exec), different fuel loads, etc, etc..
I'd say stick a sports next to mine and show me the difference, but I suppose that after 7 years (damn.. they are 7 years old already.. Doesn't feel like it) that no two cars would have the same heights anyways.

If you want to convince me, I'd need documented evidence, of which most seems to point to them being the same.
The reason I originally coinsidered the question on suspension, is I saw a set for sale on eBay, and wondered if it would be a cheap 'upgrade' but then I could only find information that said they were the same.

[Oggy]

OK, TJ AWD owners go and measure the height of your car, from center of the wheel, vertically to the wheel arch.

My TJ II Sports AWD is 405mm front and 380mm rear.

This was measured on the passenger side (drivers may have sagged a bit more with 130,000kms) with jumper leads, jacket, street directory and 2 child seats in the back plus a full tank of fuel and the ground sloping down towards the back of the car after 10pm on a mild night

Interestingly when a certain DH politician tried to railroad a certain new law through, the RTA told me that depending on what vehicle code was on my compliance plate, that these measurements should be 428 or 418mm front, rear should be 395 or 385mm, which makes my car at least 13mm + 5mm too low f/r

[DSMAZDAGTR]

TJ Exec AWD here with a relatively low 90k..

exactly the same at the fronts funnily enough for something that is supposed to 'not' have the same suspension... 405mm.
Rears were 370mm, but I have towbar, prams, child seats, etc and stuff in the boot and about 1/2 a tank of fuel atmo.

[Ken_L]

TJ2 AWD, about 41000 km, sitting on level garage floor.

Front 405 mm, rear 375 mm, almost nothing in the boot apart from spare wheel and two empty plastic crates, nearly full tank. I recon we've proved there's no difference between standard and sports model AWDs with respect to ride height.

There is, however a small but noticable difference in ride stiffness between AWD and standard FWD exec TJ models. I have each of these cars now, and my wife has commented that the FWD exec is softer riding. She's right. The exec has 215/60R16 tyres (it has the original AWD wheels / tyres) and 225/55R16 tyres on the AWD (slight upgrade on 7" rims).

[DSMAZDAGTR]

TJ2 AWD, about 41000 km, sitting on level garage floor.

Front 405 mm, rear 375 mm, almost nothing in the boot apart from spare wheel and two empty plastic crates, nearly full tank. I recon we've proved there's no difference between standard and sports model AWDs with respect to ride height.

There is, however a small but noticable difference in ride stiffness between AWD and standard FWD exec TJ models. I have each of these cars now, and my wife has commented that the FWD exec is softer riding. She's right. The exec has 215/60R16 tyres (it has the original AWD wheels / tyres) and 225/55R16 tyres on the AWD (slight upgrade on 7" rims).

I believe the fact is (as demonstrated in the Monroe catalogue) that ALL MAGNA AWD's got the suspension from the 2WD Sports/VRX, thus why the are stiffer than exec 2WD's. Don't know about the Verada AWD's though?

[Ken_L]

I believe the fact is (as demonstrated in the Monroe catalogue) that ALL MAGNA AWD's got the suspension from the 2WD Sports/VRX, thus why the are stiffer than exec 2WD's. Don't know about the Verada AWD's though?

That would make perfect sense, given that Mitsi intended the AWDs to be driven a bit more "sportingly". It also explains the decision to fit Ralliart brakes.

[grelise]

Veradas got the same 'sporty' suspension as the Magna AWD's