Hi peeps,
I have to get 4 new tyres and im wondering would it be cheaper just to get tyres or would it be better just to get new rims and tyres, plus maybe safer because lower profile etc.
Thoughts?
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Hi peeps,
I have to get 4 new tyres and im wondering would it be cheaper just to get tyres or would it be better just to get new rims and tyres, plus maybe safer because lower profile etc.
Thoughts?
OLD - 1996 MITSUBISHI MAGNA TE Sedan Altera 4dr Auto 4sp 3.0i. A/C, C/L, C/C, P/W-F&R, P/S, Embassy Gun Metal Grey.
NEW - 2004 TL Sedan 4dr SA 5sp AWD 3.5i. A/C, C/L, C/C, P/W-F&R, P/S, ABS, White
Standard tyres have a high aspect ratio. Becasue they are a bastard size they are also expensive.
You can easliy fit 17" rims and 235/45/17's, AND get a decent load rating.
I have Dunlop Sport Maxx on for the 3rd time. Grip in wet and dry is unbelievable.
Have a look at the Motor tryes test results for 2008.
From memory, and I may be wrong. Goodyear first. Falken FK 452 second and the Dunlops 3rd.
Originally cost $1200 with nice rims from AGR in Sefton in Sydney.
At the moment the tyres are $220 each.
However, if you are a bit enthusiastic you should at least make sure that you have an 18 mm rear sway bar.
The lower profile and slightly higher tyre pressure makes an big difference on how precise the handling is, especially turn in to corners.
Gerry
Rims + tyres is my plan for when I've consumed these tyres. I know it will be a big improvement.
In fact, I've got a Excel Spreadsheet open on my PC right now with my tyre calculator and notes.
I'll probably reuse some 17" wheels from my previous car, although they seem heavy and I'd prefer light weight rims this time.
By my calculations, a 235/45/17 tyre is 21.1mm too small a diameter - this would be illegal in NSW and I assume WA is the same.
235/45/18 is 4.3mm larger diameter than stock.
235/50/17 is 2.4mm larger diameter. Both of these should be fine to use.
(Stock is 215/60/16, isn't it? That's what the above was based on)
Make sure you're confident on the size before you buy & drive with them though.
On tyre price, I need to investigate a little more. Spud, what tyres are $220 each?
My local "Tyre King" quoted me for 17" tyres - $125 was the cheapest tyre he had and $150 was for some "good" Falkens. Sorry but I don't know the specific models.
Oh, and 19" Kumho's were $280 each ($1120). My 17" wheels + Khumo tyre package was just $1100!
Cheers! Oggy.
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I posted this awhile ago. Anyhow, the stock 215/60R16 tyres really needs 6.5" wheels (Falcon and Commodores have them) and not 6.0" wheels. Hence no matter how much you pump them, like 40psi, they still buldge alot and hence wear out the shoulders faster then the centres. My stock Grid II did not last at all. Have bought 17x7" wheels and originally fitted 225/50R17XL tyres which were rated 95" but because they are not as popular a tyre were expensive. I now use 225/55R17 tyres which are cheaper. One reason for this is they are an OEM sized tyre for the VE commodors. I found that both the 225/50R17 and 225/55R17 tyres lasted/lasts longer than the 215/60R16 tyres. I am planning on going to 18" in the near future.
Edit: Both 235/45R18 and 235/50R17 are expensive as they are again not a common size and only a few manufacturers make them. I was quoted $350.00 per tyre for a michellin 235/50R17 from a local Bob Jane T-Mart.
Last edited by vlad; 13-10-2009 at 07:55 AM.
Just spoke to bob jane and they said that Maxxis MAV1 235/45 R17 will fit the beast, I currently have on the car 215/60 R16
Oh,
Im thinking of getting their "shadow" model of rims.
OLD - 1996 MITSUBISHI MAGNA TE Sedan Altera 4dr Auto 4sp 3.0i. A/C, C/L, C/C, P/W-F&R, P/S, Embassy Gun Metal Grey.
NEW - 2004 TL Sedan 4dr SA 5sp AWD 3.5i. A/C, C/L, C/C, P/W-F&R, P/S, ABS, White
$220 is for the Dunlop Sport Maxx tyres. As I said at AGR tyres in Sefton, Sydney.
I know that the diameter is a bit smaller, however on 17 x 8 rims they really do work well.
There is a minimal clearance to the rear uprights on the inside and a finger width under the front spring seats.
I also lowered the car and spent some time to make sure that the camber front and rear was not too excessive, also put on the increased caster bushes.
Works well.
Speedo is 4% high at 110 KPH against my Satnav.
Gerry
If you like to go fast, spend the extra on the MA-Z1s. Very grippy tyre in both the wet and dry - should be a fair step up from the V1s.Originally Posted by h45e
As Oggy said before, the difference in OD between stock 215/60R16 and 235/45R17 is too big (664mm vs 644mm >= 3%) and will render it illegal, no matter if it has the correct load rating.
Bob jane just said to me
"This is all within legal requirements. If something is not legal I will not do it."
Now I dont know what to do.
OLD - 1996 MITSUBISHI MAGNA TE Sedan Altera 4dr Auto 4sp 3.0i. A/C, C/L, C/C, P/W-F&R, P/S, Embassy Gun Metal Grey.
NEW - 2004 TL Sedan 4dr SA 5sp AWD 3.5i. A/C, C/L, C/C, P/W-F&R, P/S, ABS, White
Are the Maxxis MAV1 235/45 R17 going on the standard 16" rim?
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