AWD Manual?

[Bibendum]

What's the turnaround time? Adelaide to Melbourne, holiday while car is being converted, drive it back to Adelaide.

[DSMAZDAGTR]

Sorry how it was done is my work and will not be explained, I spent a lot of money, gearboxes and time to do this.

Also, wasn't trying to cut your mustard or anything. As evidinced by this thread there was significant discussion on ways to do it. If I'd not been a student for the last 4 years, I'd have tried a few of them out also, but not previously bing able to afford to a) take the car off the road and b) mess with it meant I couldn't happened. It was even off the road for almost 12 months because I couldn't afford to fuel, register and insure it at one point. I'm glad that someone has done it and given those that don't want to try it from scratch themselves (just for the fun of it) an option. I was just interest to know if any of the discussions made here were on the right track, or if they were all flawed in some way etc. And as soon as I can get my financing sorted I'll be in the market to look at having fun throwing money away on cars again..

[Madmagna]

Price is simply for the price of the bell housing mods. Fitting is extra and is time consuming. From there you pretty much need a manual conversion from a fwd vehicle if that makes sense.

Have done 3 of them thus far, number 3 is currently being fitted as we speak

[Ishrub]

G'day Mal,
Wow things have moved along a lot since i was a regular follower of the forums. For one I am 50 Kg lighter so my car is so much faster LOL.
I may be way off beam here but does the modified 6G75 ECU need to be from a manual version only and/or reflashed to suit the extra power freed up by switching to a manual box and/or the power train loss from AWD compared to FWD only even in manual? If reflashing/mapping is required is that being done by Steve Knight and SKR with a dyno tune in Adelaide, an SKR reflashed ECU delivered to Melbourne, or a Melbourne sourced solution?

My 2004 TL AWD has just reached 99800 and needs a belt change in the the next 6 months or so considering the less than 5K I do in it each year. I know I am up for $1000 + if done commercially here in Canberra, so it may be time for a 6g75 conversion anyway. Depending on inspection roughly what sort of money is the 2nd hand existing engine worth as a trade in or would I have to arrange sale/disposal myself? Would my existing HM headers and exhaust with single high po cat all be reusable as i seem to recall the 6G75 has two cats.
I note you have a 6G75 waiting fitting or conversion in stock for $1750, so I know the likely cost of one component before it is modified to fit.

Any reports on line or in forums from the existing 2 conversions?

Feel free to PM me some details re likely costs, timeframe for sourcing parts etc etc, which I would leave up to you if possible. I'm still running my 2003 TJ AWD and getting my old 1978 R100RS BMW sidecar back on the road in the next month as well. so being without the TL AWD for a while next year is not an issue.
Regards
Peter

[Madmagna]

you can use the standard Auto AWD ECU, you can run it unflashed no worries at all but to get the max gain you should flash it.

If running the 74 with the manual there is no need to touch a thing. With the 75 you can run std or flash to a 380 tune or best bet is to get it onto the dyno and do live for the best result as all cars do differ a little

I have done about 50 75 conversions to date, have 3 I in line to do as well, the motors for the FWD are $1750, I charge an extra $100 for the AWD motors as there is a little more work clearing the block for the transfer case to clear. Once done the motor is ready to bolt in

The old motor I dont trade in personally as I have a good stock of 74's in stock, I often throw out perfectly good motors as I simply dont have room for them all here

The HM bolt straight on, if you have a look at Munkeymanz ride thread he has some photos of his car being done here, his is a TL AWD

Think that pretty much answers most questions, doing the manual conversion is exxy but results are similar to doing one in a FWD ie you gain back some of the power lost in the auto box and best of all YOU control your gearing not the auto ECU

[6g75 Verada]

Apologies for digging up an old thread.

Previously i've been thinking of doing a 75 and manual conversion to my KF but i'm now considering a TL VRX AWD. The only way i'd do this is if it were converted to manual.
I read that you've done at least 3 of these conversions now and before i part with (to me) a huge chunk of cash i was wondering how these conversions are going some months later?
Is there anyone on the forums that has had the AWD manual conversion done that can give some feedback?

[jowet]

Mine is going very well - only issue I have is with my gearbox, I think, making some noises which mits-fix are going to look at -- but I've driven MGTZD's awd manual and it was fine.

The evo gear ratios are excellent to drive, car understeers less, fuel economy is similar, maybe a bit better when driven gently.

I would definately recommend the conversion - if you have any issues Mal will always sort it out for you.

[flatshift47]

Sorry how it was done is my work and will not be explained, I spent a lot of money, gearboxes and time to do this.

I charge $900 for the actual work to be done to the bell housing, this is plus the housings, I need either an Evo or Legnum / Galant housing and a Magna Manual housing.

Would not bother with a 6A13 transplant to be honest, if you want to make the car go better use a 6G75

Sorry to dig up an older post, but I'm interested in why you suggest the 6G75 over the 6A13TT? An auto legnum weighs nearly as much as an awd magna, 100 or so kgs less, and they perform brilliantly. The little tt engine is a fantastic street motor, making boost low in the rev range and has great midrange torque. They are limited in upgrades, 200-220kwatw is easily achieved but then things start to get expensive. I'm interested to see what sort of power people are getting out of the 3.8 without opening the engine up. Again, sorry about dragging up an old post, but I'm interested.

[Madmagna]

I know how they go, I have 2 of them.

First of all, 6G75 takes no engineering to install, secondly while the Legnums and Galants go well, a good manual 6G75 will easily keep up with a Legnum or Galant which is standard. I know because we have tried it for fun (on private roads of course)

The 75 motor is a bolt in, parts are easy to get and they have a tonne of torque where as the Galant motor running standard boost does tend to run out of breath mid to high rev range.

[flatshift47]

Fair enough. Just wondering. Thanks for the quick reply.